UMVA has learned that a remarkable exchange took place on Memorial Day weekend, when CBS anchor Margaret Brennan attempted to steer two Medal of Honor recipients, Lt. Col. (Ret.) William “Will” Swenson and Command Sgt. Maj. (Ret.) Matthew Williams, into criticizing the United States during a Sunday appearance on Face the Nation.
The country is gearing up to celebrate its 250th anniversary in 2026, but Brennan seemed determined to inject a narrative of national “darkness” and despair, clearly expecting the two heroes to pile on with the usual Democrat talking points about division, “systemic” problems, and America’s alleged flaws.
However, Brennan picked the wrong guys. Instead of toeing the expected line, Swenson and Williams offered a refreshingly optimistic view of America’s future, choosing to focus on the country’s strengths and achievements rather than its weaknesses.
When Brennan asked Swenson what made him optimistic about America’s future, he replied, “Ultimately, because we’re in Washington, D.C., and everything revolves around politics, we have to remember that politics aren’t everything. American lives continue on. Children are born, children go to school. Lives are achieved. Dreams are achieved. This country is a great place. It’s not politics.”
Swenson went on to emphasize that America’s imperfections are a natural part of its evolution, and that the country’s aspirational goals are what make it great. “No other place in history, time or on this planet have ever gotten to where we are today. We need to be proud of that, and we need to remember that is what we stay focused on, what we can be,” he said.
Williams echoed Swenson’s sentiments, stressing the importance of remembering America’s history and celebrating its achievements. “I think if you frame it that way, you think very deeply about our trials and tribulations from beginning to today, we’ve made tremendous strides,” he said.
Williams also highlighted the many positive aspects of American life, from its strong economy to the freedom and opportunities available to its citizens. “Our country is a super-global superpower. Our economy is doing well. All those things are great. And take politics aside out of this whole conversation,” he said.
The two Medal of Honor recipients concluded that America’s 250th birthday is a cause for celebration, and that citizens should take the time to appreciate the country’s history and achievements. Their message was clear: there is much to be optimistic about in America’s future.
